Ena Baga

Ena Baga
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Ena
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Baga
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Interview Number: 
129
Interview Date(s): 
28 Jan 1990
7 Mar 1990
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105

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I brought you're running. This is Sydney girl interviewing an embargo on the 28 February nineteen ninety two for the ACTU to his history project David Robson recording in our New You started quite early in your profession as the organist and accompanist. In a way that you have made famous in the subsequent sixty five years. Tell me about your background you came with a musical family didn't. It was connected with music that our father was very musical. I was born in Islington. I went to convent at St John's Duncan terrace which was quite near where I lived that I was born and I came on the scene after three sisters Celeste Beatrice and Florence and after nine years mother had me and they used to say it was the milkman because I was the only one that had dark brown hair and all the other girls with jet black. However. By this time they were fully fledged professional musicians. You see I used to go along. Of course my father was the musical director of the angel cinema is. And the bias cope when it first started. A pianist used to Stroumboulopoulos waltz or something irrespective of what was going off on the screen and my father wouldn't accept it she used to drag me into a city you've got to help the film and even wrote little pieces to fit certain situations and the sum of our position Blue Hole was heard about all this. They used to peep over the orchestra rail to see what path was playing a shape but of course he was he was no fool we used to block black out the titles to go and a lot of the pictures. Well it was a special treat for me on Sunday night to go and see but my father was offered a job in a very tough district in New North Road where they didn't and they objected so much to the pianist that they threw a bottle on his head and he was in hospital. So why did they do that. I mean legend like his playing. She probably didn't fit the film in any way. They asked fathers who would you go to. He said I don't want to have a bottle so let me sit I'll go but I wanted someone making over the orchestra which they did. But it wasn't necessarily because he played it if the film usually well I don't mean to interrupt you from a technical point up to that time on the whole the pianist would just sort of bring up anything he thought well they did what they should do. There were no Q shoots fish Fisher No Nancy tonight that you just watched the scene and use your own imagination and what what I do now was I didn't see a film all the time. Know I get an idea that if it's Russian or Swedish or Jim that I love to cook up some of the beauty that the appropriate and watch the action. How did you get into the business yourself. Well my first and so Jen really as an cinema pianist was when the book well originally I used to go to comfort to see and learn the piano there which I hated. It was a poor old man's did their best. And I used to run under the table of Belgium and my father got a bit disconcerted he said I don't know whether I should put you to type in and shoulder and I said I don't know they don't seem to be coming onto the musical but I said Papa it's not in churches to give me another teacher which he did. And eventually I had teachers that were really interesting because they realized I had some talent where they private teachers are not at the convent and no private teachers anyway. I got rather ill. This particular cult the. Convent where I went in and Eden Grove Holloway a very very strict you know the sort of order. And the doctor said well he said You better take a dad to the seaside let us smell the mud and shall fade when the tide goes out. Now you go to shore then we call. Yes just repeat as I can. How are we running here. Oh you were just starting. Tell me about how you were unfortunately taken ill. I had to go down to shore then. Well in sales and they put a very nice snowman and bid for Decca Oh good for a man who is rather in strengths in a man in body as clear and as I went down to mom and dad bought the houses down there the girls Beatrice Celeste and Florence followed us and they were got little houses there and establish themselves and Florence was offered the job at the Strand cinema. Well the busts of the Strand was a great friend of Quintin McClain. And Clinton was very fond of this normal and be at all. And he used to ask if you could come and play occasionally he'd give us a day of love today. And of course we were very thrilled meeting that lovely player who was very famous very famous Quintin McClain one of the finest he should have been the organist. You know that we look at all look up to however he went to Canada eventually went to play the of the church all the time. He died in Canada. A few years ago. I met his sister who was over here on one occasion anyway. The scene was Heavy D Ong who they had married. He was asked to provide an orchestra there which he did so Florence was the solo organist and of course the whole damn family Celeste was the pianist. Her husband played the double bass Alex at the end. Well it was a family affair. Until you see Florence I can't tell you her her history very well because she has and a career of her own that she was playing at the Finsbury Park rink for a time before she went to Southend and her boss was a man called Evans and he used to take quite an interest in her and the father you know. And it happened that Evans became the manager of the director of the new gallery where they put one of the first Wurlitzer. So he was very kind of Florence. He admired her as a player as well and he asked her if she would like to go and play got at the new game. Well for a time regional Pope there. Oh yes. And then she took over for regional board. Well all this was happening and of course. As you can see the March job was open to me. But tell you what the girls were there I used to play for the children's matinee on Saturday morning put two and sixpence. Oh that would be up for three hours. Yes. Care for it films. Well it was so noisy that I didn't play polo and couldn't be heard. So I get over the fact that they used to pay a penny and suddenly get a bag of sweets and an apple or something. But this is in November 1924. That's right. Oh no wait a minute. I went to London eventually. Yesterday you were too. You did the children's matinees at the show. They had tried until the fire that was burnt to the ground on Saturday Sunday cinema. Yes. And I went right in the ashes and took one of the springs of the old man to me. Well of course after that I played every word in Southend played at the Palace Hotel which was a really nice hotel and then where do you get a piano here. And the gardens had a little garden cinema there. I played that I played at the Rivoli I played on the pier. The man who had all the old work in it was a man called Adam Siebold. He was a dreadful violinist but he was a good business man as he used to scrape away and I used to play with him at the West Cliff Hotel every Sunday night and I used to get ten shillings in the glass support in any way I played every way and even dressed as a hussar at the end of the pier. But my first concert as a solo pianist it was pouring with rain and of course the pier was one of the longest in the world. He had known the quartet they had to go right to the end to the pavilion and some of the water was coming through the ceiling. Anyway I was playing Sherman outsold Tom and I was very nervous you know and imagine Newman can be a kid that twelve years old and somebody said to me now boy you've got at least a glass of port. I'll get you a glass of port and you'll be all right. I haven't struck because a lot of people because you hadn't you weren't used to alcohol dryly. Might may be true cause I played with playing but name seven also but I couldn't find the coda. I kept going back to the beginning you know but eventually I manage a death cult member how and then this sort of cabal into the audience I was brought into the curtain that was my first concert as a church pianist. Can you remember any of the films of that period that you read mostly cowboy. Most cowboys. Well of course all the Campbell you know love them. How did they had some of those we have some chap. The crime assignment ma'am. Yes and of course you have a deal used to fit. And it is a very good orchestra. And the music the people used just go to listen to the orchestra. This is seen here. They've never bothered much about the film. I must say. If you can see it's really good music is to put it on. You know you had a chance to rehearse the what you were going to play to the film. He just start to burn along those eyes as you saw the film. Well as you saw the film. Well it came as a second nature to me because obviously you tried to talk as the people talked you know. And when you've got the team for your villain you've got a scene for your lover and you mustn't play well known pieces because that detracts people say oh you know what she's playing you know that you have detracted from the picture. But she was play around it you see. So you were really composing as well as play emotions. Yes. Well eventually Florence had started at the new gallery I think. They'd sent that regional port on tour. I don't want to get these facts wrong. But if you if you are in doubt I could let you know I'll speak to Tony Moss here put me behind. But she had the offer to go to Regent Street which was the premier cinema of London and play this world. So of course she blinked. But of course that was before this. It wouldn't have mattered if the part of the Strand hadn't been there. She was still showgirl however. And that was a village. So one of the first place was going on in the Midlands or the north. So it was it was in Birmingham somewhere. Anyway it was the first in London of these worlds and the very least it was the one used to rise out of the splendid did that I. It was in the corner of the orchestra. But now they've moved it and put it in the middle of the orchestra. But you get you miss that good impact of your own coming up here anyway. So what did you do then. Well she'd gone to London said Florence would have like as she could see the possibilities of these open seats in the house and she would have liked a bit of shall we say something to help. She talked well two sisters both this is quite unusual. So she said Tell mother she said I'd like to come to London. And of course I was eager to go because I'd applied everywhere and said I'll say it and you know and erm I met her in London. Your sister it me as flatmates and we went to the new gallery and we sat at the organ and we played a bit of a duet and who should come down the middle aisle but oh. Oh Bill Evans who was the boss. He said What's this. Is this the Dolly sisters. So she said this is my sister. And she said Well how would you like to work we assist. I said yes I would like it very much. I was booked much to the chagrin of the rest of the organist on the circuit circus because. Well she'd only just come to London. Wasn't she in the West End you had to work away from Wapping old stairs to the West End you. But I was lucky I was shoved in anyway. Do you think it was. Evans was attracted by the sort of the novelty of the novel. Yes we were both. I was playing well at the time there was blood and she had a bit of a name you know. And her husband Deon. And erm well the Harry wasn't he didn't have the orchestra. He was playing at the Super cinema out in Charing Cross Road deal. To their most was all these places had led all visitors anybody for a time. L l l but five lovers the conductor and I was the orchestral organist and. I used to play with the orchestra. That was fun. There was an old Italian trombonist that made love to me all the time while I was playing to push you to do it. And this nice because being a solo artist is a lonely life you know you're always on your own but when you're with an orchestra there's people around you you can have a laugh in same. I enjoyed it. This is the trajectory of new career. Well after a double sided event a year that typically was taken over by government and Terry Casey the see openness the solo work in this. And I was asked to go to the Tivoli as orchestral so I thought Well OK why not. And I forget who went with Florence. Somebody else with. She was still the new gallery and. Well then we had the big you know Harry Fryer was the conductor and he brought all the brass players from the N down. We had that was a fine orchestra. This is at the Tivoli here in the Strand and I had some wonderful nights there because the issue was get some royalty upstairs in the circle. Edward. Miss Simpson all that lot. And we used to have midnight matinees I shall never forget one we had we had them see Bill Hicks guilty Lawrence. Evilly lay I and Hillier and no cat. I remember Noel coming down to me in his dressing gown the cigarette holder settled Neil then that would get played. Well I said Why don't you let me play some of your bittersweet. The show was on in the Haymarket you should do it it has it a cool side to. Okay. Then I had to accompany him he did an excerpt from private lives with Bertie Lawrence. Someday I'll find you. And I accompanied him and then evilly lay evilly lay and dirty Lawrence were like that you could feel it. They hated Tichelman but as she sang that nicely and of course Steve Hicks had to auction this dreadful picture it was a Picasso had to know. Mandy suggested that whoever wanted to would suggest where they could hang it anyway all the debutantes you know were program sellers. And it was a lovely night too. And of course we had the negroes Negroes singer. I've got it all in here somewhere I know. They wrote the song and died. It was written for her and she was very nervous because she hadn't sudden Sidney bid before had some of the no good. So we'd rehearsed and I sort of helped her. You know I'm very fond of a company I like doing it. And she made a very big success and they gave her a big bouquet. She got a hold of this bouquet and needed the district and gave me hell. It was. No I mean uh it might be in here. I'll have a look in a moment. And as you well known in America of course. And then for a time we had a few stage shows. You see they had Alfred Rhoda and his Hungarian band. And one of the Gypsy Band toys. You know that for a time they had appeal these shows and they fixed up a bit of stage in front. But the crowning glory of all was singled out to go to Balmoral Castle and play. That was the gold rush wouldn't actually have go right. How did that come about. Well I was playing the setting you know with all the different themes that Bush was headed from his orchestra. And it was only used to have pictures on for months to no weeks. I could play the fitting with me I shot. And I suppose I thought I was capable enough to do it. So I went up just piano alone and a man sort of drab effects and all that and more to these sort of get out bags left and all that. And um well we did three shows. We stayed in the cold arms at Balata and this autumn time all the heads of us out and the first was kind of great rehearsal for the land people you see. And the second one was the royal command. But it was not a very huge ballroom in Balmoral but intimate and of course all the ladies with their diamonds. And the men in their kilts O King George was falling off his seat laughing half the time and it went down very well and we were you know met their majesties afterwards and they congratulated us. Then we went back to the hotel and of course I was very naive in those days. I was just been in the business and I've Hill of power. They used to come and meet me when I was in sales in Genoa late at night. Don't you talk to any strange men you see. Well there was a real party in this hotel champagne flowing and of course I thought well you know I better go to bed now. Now I know better than me but I'd like to have known. That. Wasn't. That I didn't. Come back yet. I said no no. And if you don't mind Dublin silly arse they laugh anyway I've learned a lot since then join me. They must have brought down taken up to Balmoral the cinema equipment the project. Oh yes everything you wrote that. Yeah well we hadn't make a noise or mean to do. Can you remember. Well it was a lovely surprise and stored in a booth or something. I don't remember that partly because I was too intent on what I was going to do but we had Christopher Yoo hoo and he received an extra pillow for the year. What's the name. The Albert Hall. Are you a at this Australian pianist. What's the name. Oh dear. It. When you call. Not to worry they would come back. Um just he said down Macfarlane the boss of United after he came up with us. Our manager. That was the manager at the Tivoli at the time. Oh. Was his name. And. Oh a lot of well-known people came up with us because they told us before we would enjoy ourselves. Well if anybody says that now I know what to do but then you shouldn't just going to be. Well I was I was. But I suppose you were a bit scared that the champagne would have the same effect. Well there was a glass of port. It could be good bait anyway. Did you get any kind of a mentor a letter or anything from the royal household. Well I've got it somewhere. He is not a Jewish I haven't tried it. And my father interrupted while I remember it wrote a poem poem in the time of poppies which he sent and he had an acknowledgement from the Greek. I've got it there somewhere. She accepted it anyway. The thing was I thought well I must get back to my job. You say I didn't want to. I wanted to keep my here to be care. It was wise in the way you know Elke said we have another show to do the next night. And I thought if I do something silly. Oh from memory. What was the second show going to be. Who was it to. Oh that was the. That we did to sort of dress rehearsal for the landowners and that then the royal command and then the children. Oh I see. That was absurd. But just all the same for all the same drill. Well a lot of the odd onlookers came you know but I'm Christopher Mann very much the agent. Yes. Now he came up and the actors he gave us mattered to Eileen Joyce at the time. But you did marry her after need his imprint personality for the Albert Hall. And he said Do you know we've got through this. And I said there was another war party. Well I said no. I said. He said Come on. What's the matter with you. What do I do to stay and enjoy myself. I should get back to my job. You know how so. Well you said if you're so anxious to get back. He said I'll give you my night sleeper you'll take over my sleeper. You can go back to your old job. You did that. No I I've ever done good job and know how to do it you know. So you did. But that was terribly. That wasn't the end of it. Lord Mountbatten was living in Park Lane and he had the king of Spain as his guest. And therefore he wanted to see the gold rush. So I had to go to his house and powerful at him. They rigged up a screen over the marble staircase and I played from there. Then I stayed quite a while at the Tivoli and. I used to do a lot of piano play there. I used to go in London festivals because the fan take me helps the organ of course. And I had a piano in the dressing room and it was monotonous. Ah no. Soon after all this the blow fell talking pictures of you. This is what being nineteen lever lovers you know numerous children you know we were lucky. We all miss. We had to stay if only to play God Save the King at the end. But we still got this up the needle over that state. And you'd sit there for two hours you know and then in those days they had a sound manager. This poor bloke had to sit in the back of the stalls with this whatever it was like one of those in his heart. And if the sound was too loud you'd have to press it that would take it down if it wasn't loud enough. You'd have to pick it up and he had to see that film through loud teen times just to do that sound manager. It's a pity they haven't got him today because it death to them. When you go to the films it's dreadful. There's going back a moment the because as you say moved the disaster that happened with the coming of sound on deals and of course the decline in the big cinemas not only in London I suppose but in the big cities everywhere where they used to having orchestras or orchestras or go to the company that met all those musicians suddenly rose terrible but they were lucky because we happened to play the old Europe. Kept the you sued even thrown to play country. They tried to do well we had to play intervals and very often we'd have ten minute tents on the length of the film sometimes. Well. When. Eventually when they took me out after a long time to go round to all this in the last game of British and then I had the chance to play these big jobs came up you see how they were the big villages or windmills. And although. I went all over London I went up to the north and the big sur the Miles there you know Sheffield the government Sheffield. Now Jesse Massey this was going to sing so that I accompany her. Yes. Well at the rehearsal she and she was married to who's the first husband suddenly they were proud she got them down in the wings like a couple of caged lions and eventually rumbled through her song. And that was that. What did you send her. I can't remember now. I think it was one of the numbers from Evergreen. Island. Anyway leaving your radio play her introduction she comes to big hand. She started singing and then she shut up and ran off the stage. Oh my God what is this. So I'm playing way no matter what's going to happen next. Watching these you know the side of the stage. Okay. Off we go again. Well she came on then and. She got through it all right. But at the devil I understand. But she got nervous about getting so used to seeing new things about singing with an organ or something or in a cinema. Anyway I had a relation to marriage up there and he took me into the Grand Hotel. Is it dead. Sheffield and I had was introduced to pins. No one thought this nice thing was that lemonade. And I had several parents when I was to get up a bit but my legs wouldn't get up. So it's a very innocuous sort of thing. Yes. But term. Well I went you know from cinema to cinema quite a appeal of the London ones. And. Bromley was very nice nice manager there and Lewisham was nice but New Cross was the organists Waterloo Ward. Well I prepared him and I said to let you see the organ didn't come up at the static just finished I'm sorry. Oh yeah. Uh. Uh uh. And we all agreed that it was the organist Waterloo. They didn't pay any attention to. I could care less anyway. And that really was very unusual wasn't it. I have got a good head. Although most people either bought an ice cream or went to the toilet while we were played but there it was the way the organ was presented. You see it could have been presented properly. In some cases it was but I wouldn't say presented properly you mean. Well spotlight here yes a spotlight and you know something to hold people so that yeah. Well it was up to the organist to to keep them from playing something that was interesting so they would stay and listen. Anyway I had the Wurlitzer that came up out of the floor. Yes that's right. Yes. And anyway for my sins I was sent to LA. What do you call it. Well this one I mentioned celibacy organist Waterloo New Cromwell crossers. I thought this was a good move. It is. I thought Now I'll shake it up somehow. So I played a lot of the Latin American and I finished up with Taeko teacup movie and I got it. All right. But my last job that I took as of as a permanent job was Camden Town beautiful cinema with a like the Roxy New York. The old man was behind the curtain lifted the stage and you pressed a button and up with the curtain pressed another one you slid onto the stage and then the third button you angled it as you wanted it and I used to take it onto the stage and at company X. Now then I tell everybody this. We had this um second feature newsreel cartoon organ interlude feature and analysis tonight and good variety called some pretty neat died that recently didn't he knew I'd come meet him and some lovely singers and oh the big noise and speak all over the net and they'll go shoes to ground polish to sing for our show. I can't stay that long. And they paid nine pence for that. Talking of money can you recall the sort of salary you would be getting on that engagement that went on some years ago would you consider yourself lucky if you've got twelve pounds a week. It was quite a good sermon. Oh yeah. Twelve pound fifteen was very good. How we've got out of all proportion however was ridiculous. When you come to think of the millionaires in the musical world today I I contrast myself to talk about that. The accounting term job was what it was. They were sort of showing pictures by then weren't they. Oh yes. We all talk. I think I remember that now I live there. I live near a quarter. Come on come the organ. Oh yes. And he went up north and I took out a girl and it was a very interesting job. I enjoyed it across the wall started the novice there and it was fun it was a little pop of the back with all the artists used to go and I used to go have a lunch sometimes for a shilling and get a cut from the joint. Roland Butler a bit of cheese and good luck to virtually is pub lunches. Very good work. Now during the Blitz I used to go down in the tube. I was living in half a stock Hill my husband who was in the air force had to go preparing. Had to leave me and they started this new barrage into Hyde Park. The blitz started on London and of course I used to run down to the tube and I slept in the tube. I slept on concrete and then they put these bunks there so I tried to get home. I thought I've only got to get em but they won't let me out. And because when these big guns started the rail was terrific. Anyway the people in the pub then they'd had their living quarters up in that little of the pub and the police who wanted them to go down take shelter they never would move until the pub had a direct hit one night and the cellar was full of water. So the police dived into the bodies been there but for the first time in their lives that night they decided to go down in the tube. All that was left of the top was a piece of ceiling where the safe was stuck up there anyway. But they saved their lives by getting on the floor. Anyway I got I got a. Now this is an interesting bit too. I was offered a job that kept Bob's name disclosed Camden Town. They chose me to venture they had it. We should was damaged and I was offered a job in trust we have a little club there. The girl I knew who was the thing that she said don't come along. We need a pianist to play for us. So we used to go along there until dusk. And when the sirens went we have a cushion and you know it used to be the big Draper's Shop at the corner of Leicester Square. They had the in the shop been called Russell's. He was a member and Oh Russell he used to be the firewall. He was very good. He'd look after us it right down into his cellar and we all had our pitch there you see. And the yellow did taxi drivers. They'd take their fares and dump their car and come back. And there were fights every night because of a picture of somebody else missing and she's on the Russians. They send the recipe. Well one night I was dozing machine have some of the finest metal here. They're not using gas so I feel my torch lifted and under my roof under my nose was a pair of feet and dirty socks. That was I was sniffing about one when they bombed Soho the whole place shook. And for one moment I thought I was going to be panic and Oh Russell came down and put the light on these very good and saved the panic. Well anyway what was the club that you were playing in charge until December. I was not very far from the Rainbow Room. You know the only American shoes to get upstairs. I'm not sure but it wasn't called a lyric club. Could be I believe it was me anyway. This was the wish to drag the signal should always get hysterical screaming and yelling We used to drag to a level with us you know. And then I was asked to do a broadcast at St. George's hotel. Well when I got to the BBC I looked at the performance which is everything in St. George's Hall has been cancelled. Well I said so far as I know I had my rehearsal there. So that's what all this is nice. So what can I do I have to go through with it that's all. So my sister Celeste she was alone in London and she said Well I've got to meet you tonight and I want to be alone Atika come along to see George's holding which she did. Well the caretaker there she will miss when you get the spotless morning. Because it's a glass roof so you can imagine ourselves still playing on my artwork I until they see all good. They had just anyway. The warning came. Well we moved quickly but we couldn't go over to the Lagniappe because there was a Mason lose down if it had been breached. We had to go back to the BBC and they put took us to the concert hall downstairs and blow me down. There's a flipping organ there that I could have done my show by using a Compton thing. I'd never suggest bad doing a transmission but anyway that night the ladies slept Burnside and the men slept there. And then of course she. Yes. And that night they bombed Georgia. That was the last one to play. Beautiful country regional folk turn attentive me when I did the first broadcast said and he said when I finished I didn't know you could play like that. I said thank you. I've got a letter from him here. It's a matter of fact Randy sent me after a broadcast it all happened till I could tell you about it after the show. Now because Reginald thought it was this withdrawal of a drag he went round with this huge Muller organ. Well um eventually I did a few jobs you know and did this a lot. Did you see much of your husband during work. No nothing at all. He was. Was he now he was somewhere on the East Coast. Does he anyway. I had a little flat in have a stock Hill at the time that I was living. And Wally land out of ravaging land. She was in the same block I used to go up and play duets with him. It's nice because they were very well well-known turn went the little whales gave them their first child. They were wonderful. You couldn't tell who it was that this play. And yes it was. It was quite because the rabbit was a mum that wrote all of the nice little pieces. Anyway um I had to go to Asian to do my broadcasts. After that that be a lot of people eventually transferred what you give it evacuated. There was a big house there called Calder would know. They used to call it hunks nor do they give me et cetera and that at the back of the room was from little log cabins like the Canadian scene and Sandy was there of concern in the season. And I rang him up one day I said Sandy didn't have any jobs or Saddam I'm living on a shift to 15 a week or something we are all right stay with us. I said Do you know of any jobs going. I need a job. Well he said I know the boys at Blackpool are being called out why don't you go out to chips. I said thank you I will. So I wrote to Jepson who was the boss and the boss of the tower. Yes. And he said Oh well perhaps you would come up and give us an audition. I said very well which I did. I gave him not an audition on the opera house organ and went back to London to see and fiddle around for a while and eventually the call came. Would you like to come up. I said I'll do anything. I'll play piano I play old and I don't mind what I do about a topic. Anyway I was tempted to come up. Then it was just after Christmas that a cold and snowy up she was going to ask you about the train journeys because they were pretty all her own time. Tell me about the dreadful. Well when I got a good bet to each on the train that should have arrived didn't when I got there it was dark and the man with the car there was waiting for me gave me up to take me to the BBC. So I'm wondering about it in a darkened street. I think that the devil have an old can I ask. If so a chink of light in one of the sort of Café places now looks fill and there was a man with a face and I thought well he must be the safest ever doing all the other overseas. So I went in I went up to this man I said to excuse me and I showed him my contract. I said I have to find the BBC. I missed the train and the man has missed me. How can I get there. He should I'm sorry madam I do not know. I do not work for the BBC. So what the hell was he doing with a face on it. It is during the war in Egypt. However somebody there intelligently said Well there is a bus that stops and takes you to the BBC should you go to the other side of the road. He said you'll probably see it and thank heaven I did some time in the nighttime dispositive route. Yes. This transmission was about to hop off stage somewhere at night. Anyway I got to the would not Northern gate long drive in the doubt and there was a raid going on over Birmingham. So filled with torch. Put that light out. It fell in the bushes scrambled and got into this little trap over the organ was with about ten minutes to spare. Anyway they fixed me up with a farmer's wife to every it was chock a block they had owned hotels for me but she was very good. She gave me cauliflowers to take home and a goose you know. And I did that continuously until I went to Blackpool. Then you enter Blackpool on a long term contract law. Well obviously Dixon was going into the air force and and the other fellows in there can't remember it from the Winter Garden and. Well I knew they'd want somebody for something. He said well we're going to play the organ. Yes. Well I didn't know what I was going to play until I saw gypsy but when I get to that pool from the train I get a cab. I said Will you take me to the hotel. I must stay the night somebody always says oh Doral is it. And we must pull up. There there's one place might take you and that is place and I went in. Police officers want to stick around. Dizzy blonde. Behind the desk. And then I said I must have. Can you give me a bed for the night. So they took me up to the first floor and I didn't look at the sheets of the bed I should take me to the top drawer. Anyway I dumped all my luggage. Can you imagine all the luggage I had to and flew down I knew that gypsy and I had to put an appointment with him in this office because I couldn't make it. I duly went down trees half upon a mile of visual every night at the tail restaurant so I thought if I get there I'll vitally see him. He came along I explained. I said the trains will roll up the wall I know what to do. Well he said Okay well where are you stay. Well I said to the taxi driver nor for job to take me anywhere but obtain somewhere in the name of the Bloomfield. I think it was cool. They nearly fell in his bed. He said it's a brothel. I explained the dizzy blonde. And the Polish Cypriot girl. I said Don't get excited go tonight. He said the door's locked and I'll get you in the hotel tomorrow. So you can imagine how I felt when I got back. So anyway I crawled upstairs and made sure the doors were locked. Went down to breakfast. I had a big sandbar on the plate big black gun. I flew out in such a hurry that I lost and I left a bit of luggage there and it took a back for it. Well anyway I saw Jetson in his office and he had a little chat and this settled. Do you have a place somewhere. Because I gave the audition on the opera house organ previously so they knew what.

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Fascinating experience at the hotel that turned out to be a brothel you would get to talk to drips and make sure about what you're going to be doing. Well I went to his office the next day and he said we'll find you something. And I thought of he knows what I can do. But the next day that Evening Gazette which is their papers famous women organize for terror. I've got the cuttings on my book she'll help him. And when I made my do debut on an Easter Sunday and there was active member and what we called to run that thing. And. The Tiger Rag of muffins. Carefully. And who were the others. Now on the bill on the bill with me and I I played Portlandia and then in an English country no 19th century joined them after I got a good head coach. I know how long you had to do a lot of rotten things. When the Bush couldn't drill outside it was raining. They used to come in but not punch no player down session for the team. And you did children's Merton judgment as a children's belly and it Schultz was very good to. Twice a day that was and then I'd play my interval in the evening for the band you know for dancing. So what would you do right. What time did you start. I'd start to two thirty in the afternoon if if I had got a morning session sometimes. And then the afternoon show would go on from two thirty till about five then I'd have my eye then but have it sort of fun in the evening session and I'd play there until half an hour there and what it was about nine o'clock before I could finish her. Of course Sunday concerts Sunday afternoon Sunday evening I start every Sunday. Yes. I stuck this for nearly a year working seven days a year. Yes. And then I told them I said I must have a break. But unfortunately the break came to that I didn't want I had to have a major operation. I thought I was getting too big. And the doctor said no you've got to have a growth removed. So I had the simple follow. So she took over and you went into her brother did the hospital in Blackpool. Yes. And Mr Xi's name now. The surgeon was the brother of your head of the River Plate during the war. Yes for him and for him. His brother was the captain on that ship. That's something one of the eleven Mr Everett and Kermit. And it was of an ability and you know a big growth which they had to remove. But I felt fine. I didn't feel ill or anything. And for the whole week I was very ill I remember Beatrice coming in Florence and tears dropping on my face. And before I went in for my up the doctor said they said Now we'll have to get the Stig out before it pulls in the pedals. Well anyway they discovered that something had pushed various organs out of place and they put it right for me. And he put his head round the door and next voice. You're all right. I see. But I had to convalesce for a long time you know. I was staying in little tiny crowded hotel rooms and you know you feel you don't want to look at any one of his. So how long did it take you. Well I went away for three months. Good job Florence could do the job. Did you get any payment during your term. No. I was going to say during those days those talks are different I think that I can honestly say that it was a blessed company level Liverpool. So we seem to have worked very hard then not done anything for you. When you were ill. So you were. Did you leave after that or did you go. I carried on because my husband was in the Air Force still and eventually. I made love a good friend so that up there you know the Lancashire people that they're quite kind hearted if they know you and they know you as children you know you're not pulling a fast one on one mural right. You and Joe Lawrence Wright was up there at the time the impresario. He had a stroke while he was there and I used to push him in his bath chair to the end of the North Pole and he put the show on there and he had a lovely flat in King George Avenue. This time my piano I used to go out and play it sometimes and one to one time I was playing by D it up. Look who's coming up Talbot. Oh I thought. Oh really. So I struck up your your my house in tonight and he went to got to the door. He said that it is in the right key. But Travis it is. You live there. You see with his wife over than me I had an idea dine and AP it's safe to go and have a mistress in the village to shop under the town every day. And another time my old Hutch was coming up here out pushing Leslie out his handkerchiefs. But Tim the world and his wife were there much suspense as far as I had a very good friend among them. They were all evacuated here all the theatrical agents were there. They stood in Blackpool still in Blackpool. Yes five years of it. And the place was chock a block. And not only that we had the lakes. They would come over. The only place where I could feel a bit of fresh air and nobody around me was the golf course that saved me. Because you were very keen on golf. Yes I have won three cups while I was there. Did you start playing golf when you were a girl. Well yes I started. Well no I was a teenager when I started. I had a boyfriend who was keen on it and it started me old movies don't show them. They're trying to use that term you know to get some time off what you've been blackballed even if not very et cetera. In the in the off season days you know you play golf in the morning a bit. And that's where I learned to play bridge and I was very thankful for it. Do you did you play for money. How would you pay me a hundred. You didn't win very much although I to. But they got some cuts to show from the Gulf anyway and some pictures. So you were in Blackpool right to the end of the war right to the end of the war. Now the last one they had Dixon was coming back. This is Dickson came to see me once and she said What is there to do after the war on this bunker. I said I haven't thought about it cities. I knew what I was going to do anyway. And then. What did happen. Well I guess I wanted to pick up my threads in London. She didn't seem like a family again and you know stop doing things again. What your father said my father now that he died while he was in his 1778. But mother was still alive. She died at 92. She. They were quite pleased with your progress in the profession. Oh yes yes very much so. What a splendid job. Dearly what happened then did you got back to London. Well I lived there before. I told agents I said it. I could have stayed there but I didn't want to play second fiddle to Dixon initial. And before I left the front page of the Radio Times that particular week had the picture of the tower I made to record saying Mm. And what's his name. He was in the Air Force he came to listen to me while I was making them. Oh. Did come back. Well well no no organist yes. Anyway there was a picture of the tower and myself and Dixon and that bushy sort of smooth way of bringing him back. But what's a send off. They gave me I shall never forget it. The car was full of flowers and they knew I was very fond of vegetables. You know I couldn't get a lot of them up there but I used to like fresh paint so there was a huge basket all around the handle was brussel sprouts. Then those cauliflowers leeks tomatoes the lot. Does a thing of you know anything of beauty. But they were very appreciative. And after 40 years I went up to the town. It was like old time. But what a difference. They cleaned the place up because during the war a thousand say no. They all flawed because I like this because of people dancing on the end the Americans with gays in the Cold War and jive. And we had men say Mr. Pigeon we used to go rather slowly and began to clear I used to call in the slight foot flow juices the Floyd flowing and the girls in the corner and stop them silly and the Sunnis turned directly ratification again. The overflow was growing up now like this but when I was in Rhodesia claim that the railway hotel in Lusaka an army man they had a meeting of some of the army up there in. A sort of uniform nice dress uniform one came up to me and said in this fog a deserter named teaching mean anything to you. Well I said I used to know Mr. Pidgin you was the emcee at the table. He said that was my father. Strangely I said before getting to Lusaka Of course you got back to London. Oh I did. I put a lot before I got back into cinemas. Tell me what happened after the Blackpool. Well I came back to London. Well I'd given up my flat in the head of stock hill and my mother in law had got a little little bungalow in Shepparton on terms. And let's. Well but Jim must demand that the only home we had to go to. And it was said I don't know it has to be the oldest again because there's so much to tell show your broad bone. And then I had a call from the House of Lords. Well I think at this moment a moment he rang me up he said his father. I've just been to the states. May have got some of these electronic albums in the the restaurant is very likely to play one for me in my corner house. I said that sounds very interesting. Neil Simon. Oh yes. It's Simon luxury. It's right. Well he said we'll get yourself an organ. He said fix it up. And God wants you to go to the lodge. Call the house. What's the one in Leicester in there. Coventry Street Coventry Coventry. So I thought to myself now of the only option available at that time was the hammer just getting no. But I had heard of whispers at Compton's while making an electronic call. I thought well it's a British firm. Why shouldn't we give them a chance. So I got Moss Mr. Moss Mr Marsalis a musical supervisor of lions to come with me and made an appointment project with Mr. Broad not broad. Never seen them on the air. Anyway we go along. And the man calls Sperling I don't know if you've ever heard me there's a bit of an organist. He was working for them and the man we made an appointment with. We couldn't see. Well I said this is very strange because this is Mr. Bostrom reliance and Co. We have a very interesting proposition for you. I said I hear that you are making electronic organ. Well he said we've gotten a prototype which we haven't finished. Well I should be be prepared to die or even to hire. I said it would be a good advert for you with your name. But I couldn't get it. We need to treat Labor treated like a couple of confidence tricks. That's what I said to Mr. Moss Mr. Moss we're wasting our time. Good day. And after that we had ten Hammond's fellows being hired by Joe. So that'll show you'll have back what we are. Without this the strength comes in this country however. So how long did you stay with us for two years three years at the courthouse at the corner house bit more than that perhaps it was Spartan and we had a very good. Well we were always like were you abused when. Well I think it was afternoon and afternoon sessions because the nighttime they had the jazz band downstairs. They generally give an old gypsy band select a person to play afternoons. Would you enjoyed it. Oh very much. Old motels you know. Gil Davis used to come in and save me an old. The other organist you know from the West End they used to come in. They had a chair. But the manager's name was a Mr Shepherd and he was very musical very nice and I was playing away one day you know watching everybody. That's all. There's one one piece that fits the situation. Sheep May Safely Gray and I've played it. But it was very interesting and now said I was going to ask you did that go gave that job gave you much more time to yourself and the one at Blackpool. Oh Lord. Where did you go to the cinema much in your time. I don't think I ever went into us in a minor blip though it was in London when you were doing the country St John. No because I once I got immersed with happens I am my blood was on them. I was out promoting electronics but I do the odd you know the odd concert a Sunday concert at the cinema somewhere. Those were always going. And now I was out of the corner half century recorders. How does that compare financially with Blackpool. Well it was better pay. Was it because by that time the war was over and things had improved a bit you know you get to this afterwards that wasn't marvellous but it was better than I'd been getting in there anyway. Now I was trying to think now attorney to get back into doing something. I'm delighted with films. Yes. Can you stop for a moment. Yes. I must return to live. Yeah I think so. You think you've got to make sure you have before we start and then I repeat that question I just asked here in they're running they're running. You were just about to join me. For we have a stop to think about how you got back into it. My husband is the wish of his lifetime was well in a pub. Oh and he managed to get along well in Twickenham. And of course that meant I had to give up my job at the corner house. So I told Neil salmon I said I'm very sorry. Was a marvellous boss very very kind man. But my husband as you got going into the licensing trade and naturally I must go with him. It decent viable issue when you come to your senses give me a ring. The public called the jolly black selection do. Well never have I worked so hard for so little from. And we had to do lunches there when the cook was I had to do this but I played in the lounge and of course it attracted quite a lot of people. And I had two or four years of it and it wasn't happy because we could never go out together. It's a sort of business that there's got to be somebody responsible there to watch especially the tools. And we never went out together. Well one thing and another I saw this is no life for me. I insist on getting on for my broadcast. I would not give those up as I was broadcasting regularly. And. Well. I husband been had to say to that you had to agree to that. Thank God I did to get my name going. Well we broke up. I'd had enough of it as all. This is no life. I used to have to cash up for tills at night. We all did out and in all the glasses. It's it's hellish work to the pub and there's a problem. So for me it was a present. Well no definitely Dave is very large and very cold in the winter took a lot of heating and it was the wrong horses for courses. It should be but we were in the wrong place and although we made a go of it but I made up my mind that I haven't finished I've had enough and the offer came to South Africa. So a new life which is one in the fifties. Yes. Yes. The O'Connor brothers. They had several cinemas in south London. And when they saw this coming in they decided to sell out. I think ABC bought mother to the Regal Kennington and was one of them. And anyway I played there several times Falzon. Did you of weeks you know and they both went to South Africa. They loved the country and the climate it is a beautiful country. Sunshine all. And they built the Margate hotel there's three little dots as they call them on the coast there between Port Elizabeth and them and this one is called Margate and the other one is called Ram's cake and the respective mayors into the interchange you know the mayor of Margate here used to visit Dan and oh yes and vice versa. And beautiful you know lovely Sands palm trees Indian servants it was like heaven you went there on a contract for them. Oh yes. And there that I bought this Hammond organ because I said to Albert because they're friends of the family you know I've known them for years and my late brother in law of Lou Morris seniors and very well he was a cinema man. And incidentally this oldest business when Lou sold out to ABC he had a cinema in Britt Linton where we used to go and play and we had our sort of vulgar tricks radio program. And that was the age you had with your sister. That's right. The bag of tricks. Celeste Beatrice Florence and I that the world broke us up over the Internet touring with it to me anyway. What was I told you were you were you on your way to South Africa. Oh that's right yes. Well I wrote to Albert and said I want to change of life I'd like to come out and see you'd give on to the organ to there. And he said Yes well in a new Palm Beach Hotel you come in and let which I did. But there's such a lot to tell you about my journey out there on the boat and all that. I was going to say how did you how did you get out there. Well I would sail by sea on the a diminished city. No not that. Can we stop for a moment. Parcel boats and I had two escorts. I was ill because all this trauma was that nearly gave me a nervous breakdown. So I was ready for some change believe me. And on the ship I had a bit of a setback and the doctor ordered me to bed. He said No you're not to get up until I tell you. Oh God you know what am I missing. But I to ISIS called. One man came from Kimberley the big how you know they called Kimberley and another was a farmer from the east but two we had a fancy dress ball on board an eagle interests buster to this you know shake and I went as one of his wives I was worried about for that but when we got to Table Mountain it was a lovely. What a lovely place Cape Town is because a cloud over the top of the Table Mountain. But anyway I said to the doctor I got a muskrat. He said Well you've got to come back to bed at eight o'clock. These poor yes these boys took me out and this lovely lovely city. Anyway I backed up. There was a maharajah on board with his Rani. He'd been recently married and she was very lovely and they were a bit apprehensive as we were getting near Cape Town because of apartheid. But there was an English lord and lady I forget their name. David Peston just as well and they took them under their wing and I think when they got to the hotel what's a famous hotel in Cape Town now. Oh dear. Anyway they were there but they managed to be accepted to sing and years afterwards when I was a couple of years out when I was in Salisbury Rhodesia in the Jefferson Hotel which was multiracial. Who should I meet but the Rajah. You should do do you follow me. No you're following me learn the term. So then what happened about the job. Well then this bit a nice hotel the Palm Beach. Now this is a tiny bit I must tell you. Well they made a great fuss a media deal companies because after all I had a reputation and they gave a reception for me at the Eden Rock Hotel where I met everybody you know and had made for them a bit and then they took me to the country a lovely place a country club and we had drinks out on the launch. It was like heaven. They took me down to Margate where I was going to play at the Palm Beach. Now he said we're going to meet them there. Well that was it it was real. There was a real Cockney you know but they were clever people and made a lot of money. And you said you're gonna meet the you're gonna meet the mayor of Margate now. But he said if you talk to your native servant you you'd greet him and say Speaker Boehner. That's the Zulu word for hello. She Scoble. But he said when you meet the mayor I don't say sack about oh you said to play you say good a quid and it will come it. Hello and how are you. You see they don't forget. All right. So big reception you see and we'll meet and that comes to me was a mere word. Do you want words. So. Hello. Hello little. I said sick about. The British people actually what our crowd here not rush. We should learn to love. Them. Anyway. It's all got. The laugh because trust me to put my foot in it you're saying. Anyway as I say I had my native said and everything was done for me beautiful beaches swimming every day anyway. What was the work like. Oh easy you know playing for dancing and whenever they wanted to recycle or something. I was there and the people you know those and all nations Scottish Irish Italians they like America really. That was when you played do tell me before we started recording about a big dam. That'll come later than it would Rhodesia but in South Africa you're not to have a cup of tea now don't you. We're not. Sally like that right. This is resuming the recording of Mr. Bulger on March 7th the interview the interview Sydney Co. Record is David Robson. You know when we were last talking you just made that awful faux pas which turned out all right. Because everybody thought it was funny with a man. What happened after that you were still still in South Africa. Oh yes. I played at the Palm Beach Hotel which had been built I opened it allowed to sell things at from the opening day. She and then I would go down to the Margate hotel sometimes and give a show there which was I needed to way up the road and I got cracking with my golf. What was your handicap go. Well then the least I've ever been was a 20. But I won in Blackpool I've won a lot. I won three cups in one year. And there they are living and some of them never made it back to South Africa. You. Where did you go next door. Where are you now. Well I was to run the surgeon on the south coast. I felt I wanted to spread my wings and I told the court as I said I feel I know I must seem a little to country now. And I had an offer to go to Johannesburg and play in Sierra Club there. But I had a cable from Rhodesia of the Friends of the Connors a darling people a doctor and his wife who had a huge tobacco farm in Marin Dallas which is 90 miles from Salzburg. Oh and I'd met them and they were lovely people they said all were crying out for someone to entertain us do come along and entertain us here. So I thought well why not. So it meant having the organ cased in two big wooden cases the club was a Hammond Hammond Hammond organ yes console in one of these speaker and bench in the other. And my sister came over Florence and she told she'd come up to sold to us or did you and me see. So we got it on the train and when we arrived at Salzburg we had to go through customs and of course when they saw this huge these two huge cases saw what on earth you know. Then they told sunburnt Rhodesian customs officer what is this Magnum. Well I said we are musicians and this had on the the cases the Barker sisters and we'd play and entertain the old and then piano. I said you know music soothes the savage breast. Said were not also true. That was my first faux pas. However we got a festival. I should've gone back a bit. I had an engagement. I'll put me in Salt spray at the Empress restful. Little you had the light from your friends etcetera. Well as a you I was coming to. Rhodesia but in the meantime I took this other engagement just to settle my selfie. And. I do use the org initially I couldn't get. Eric dumped and um I played there for a few months. Then the boss of the hotel Jefferson Hotel and Diaz one in Northern Rhodesia offered me a job at the Jemison which is a multiracial hotel. Oh and it was there that I saw also ritzy Khama and his entourage being feted and wined and dined because they wanted the rights of the mining lands removed. Because it's such a wealthy country got copper mines gold mines everything you could think of anyway. Funnily enough so what was to have a say. Who should I run into but the Maharajah that I was going to rescue. But then they said Hey Louis are you following me. I said No you're following me. Well after so adjourn for a little while at the Jefferson I was playing for a lot of the Italian people who were responsible for building the curry. But then they were staying there and one night they asked me to join them at their table. I had to. The organ in the dining room is she which I did and then I said Miss Parker We've been very much like you to come and entertain our workers. The den is nearly ready and send them a lorry for the organ and the front of the car for you and whatever friends you would like to go with you. So I said well this should be an interesting experience. And we did this from us no mail from us. Come with me. She'd come back by this time to England. Yes. But when we got to Korea but it was like a huge anthill of the top of the hill was the little village of creeper and the little chapel which was dedicated to the builders. I forget the saying nothing nobody would say but some of you know suddenly it was. It had no windows it was an old soldier grilled. This was the heat. There you go. And in that it was a hive of industry that was cast. Daschle began this huge anthill as I call it. However we stayed in the quarters and the old man was put in the spot. They had to take the dollar off because that wouldn't go through. But anyway we got it on the stage there. Then we had to have our meals in the huge dining room. They had log files bonded the heat the scents so intense we had to sap salt tablets to keep everybody sugar and bowls of spaghetti boiling on this. Take these huge fires. So I coded the spaghetti and cement. So far I've never seen so much of either. But they took us up the night time by just because there's no twilight in South Africa or Asia. Suddenly it's dark. The curtain coming down. Yes. And. Oh they took us to this observation post. But you look down and those one two escaped to open on top of the dam all these black figures running around was like a scene from Dante's Inferno. But what they didn't tell me and I found out after that they'd had a mass funeral because several men had fallen into wet concrete. And they wanted something to cheer the people up by all the Italians played all their songs for them. They sang you. There was one rather bad moment when I went to play the last I took and it was nothing. Oh good. I've got no spare valve. I've got no engineer. What the devil can I do. I was booked to play the next day another concert in the openness and a man next door. Anyway I called one of the electricians in a suit you know to do that. And it was a faulty plank. It was all right. Yes. Well anyway next day was a bit cooler in the stadium open air cinema and of course after that I did a lot of touring. I used to go on my nightstand but on dirt roads you know just these two pieces of tumble driving yourself. Oh no no no no. I used to get. There was lots of a prospector said and people with jeeps and land rovers no doubt helped me to go from A to B you know. And I played at the big sports clubs. They had swimming pools billiard tables you know. That's the only entertainment they had because there was no television as yet. No I had some films. Oh yes. Oh yes. And of course the radio. But then what happened. How long were you in radio together. Or another year. It was a wonderful hotel. That's right. And eventually. That's right. The bus of the hotel said I'd like you to go up to LA. But is it cold now but Zambia now and Lusaka. Yes. He said the rich white hotel is very nice there and I'd like you to play there. So I said okay. So I went up north. And a beautiful hotel was built for the parliamentary forms and they will see houses of Parliament right next to it. Now I used to go into the debates but what I could never understand that in Salisbury there was a. But in Northern Rhodesia there wasn't apartheid because the DUP people live on each side in the Government House and the white people did and they were discussing things and then in cocktail parties they would be with their picket lines those to place. The apartheid. Nobody's been able to explain it to me because she was still a part of South Africa then wasn't it. I mean it wasn't it wasn't independent. Yes sir. Roy Walensky that's where I met her and he had pointed out and tried to move when they had even what they call a DDR. Oh yeah. Cetera. And then erm I don't think they'd done that. And that was still still part of this mystery Missy what was his name. Ian Smith. Right here. But that was after I had lived in south central Africa. Anyway this was a beautiful hotel. It was manned by a Zulus but they had one white man who was the manager and the organ was on the stage and had to grab Candle in the cocktail place. Oh Nick huge shoulder of the lake by the ACT where they had all sorts of different kinds of fish and stuff. And I used to play the piano. I had a the violin and sort of thing you know electronic seeing Europe to play as well. And I did several broadcasts in Northern Rhodesia and I also accompanied the native boys and. Did he do sing sing for the guitar and write nice to songs. And he wanted to know some background so that made this record was in all going to cut. But in I very catchy little tunes image of back then. Well all sorts of incidents. I play golf there with the boss's wife you know. No. Great. The Greens weren't green. They were just coal tar and you had to. You had a piece of wood in your bag before you approached the green. You smooth it out so you didn't literally hollows but the trees and the. Fauna and Flora were gorgeous. In South Africa beautiful. You out did you. What sort of hours tradition turned you were working at those hotels. I mean how many. Well we don't. Oh yes. There's a job like that in the hotel was in an all time job. Really. Yeah. I used to get off to do broadcasts and things like that you know. But it was playful meals. You played teach her to do it when you get well. No. No sir there wasn't really tea time. There you play for lunch and then you'd have a break. They do play for cocktails at six o'clock and all lecturing and then late during dinner. But after well after a few months of this and I got a little under the weather I went to the doctor but he said You better go back to a static job. He said all this travelling in sickness is getting you down and it's it's too much so I a good idea. But I realize it's no good making yourself ill because it was hard. Go ahead search my freshly some of the travelling that I did Miles and miles of dirt roads to stretch this thing the old I remember there was one incident I was in the lorry taking the organ somewhere. This is before I tied up with Lusaka you and they broke down the right in the escarpment and right by the Catholic river. So I thought well I'll get out and just stretch my legs a bit you see so I got out of the bed had a look around the trees there but Luther's growing the you know all sorts of funny things and wonderful green stuff. And I saw some yellow in the distance ourselves. I said boy. Bush said my shoes shoes that's. Oh so I was a speed of two antelopes I was rushed back into the van. If you had waited there's no question of bringing up B.A. sit there and wait one another. And then came along. You just stop it and then helped us you see. And they put the organ whatever it was right. But it was right in the jungle that was and I nearly trod on the black black man. But I thought of one day where I wouldn't get much good with it. I mean did the little Kennedys you know the little pick neatness if you will into the draft you didn't go to look fearful. I did picking they liked to get his terrible and just give it a little lift. If I didn't like you he put his foot on it. Hell I felt it was very interesting and of course sunshine all the time. But I went back to Durban I was offered a job dead in the front of the hotels trying to think of the name of it now along the front there and I thought to myself well I used to do some broadcasts. David Davies from. The well. So there was a place a stop stop please remember to tell you the right scene. The sphere were really running your it. I know you went through the ruins of my house. No. The David Davis was seen a man in charge of all the radio and Lorenzo Marx and did a lot of broadcasts for him. And went back to this hotel in Durban quite contented to stay perhaps you know forever. Then I got a phone call from my sister one day from Florence. Yes. She said I've just been on the Queen Mary for six trips. She said man I'm a bit tired. Would you love to see your dog. Oh. You see I'm Geraldo was. Your boss is the agent for the. Queen Mary. And they wouldn't have ladies but they'd had said a disappointment with some of the men and a guys say so they try. The lady is so lovely once again I said farewell and I started on the Queen Mary. What was that about. In her home village I haven't got my book with me. Totally. I just got to because I used to work on this show. Not to worry. You uh not worry. Sorry. Don't worry about it now. I just carry on the progressive interesting holistic I I say it wasn't true etc.. No. Well it was hard work. They had an. And it happened to organ on the stage clapped because sometimes you'd be played like that in terms of your play. No that. Didn't bothered me I'd been to South Africa and I had several jobs to held quite all right. But Mid Atlantic had my first recital. I was going to be sick. Oh so you could have come basically all. What can I do. Focus first class cocktail lounge full of people death him back the orchestra used to take over from me. God I made a dash to the back of the stage but there was a champagne bucket and the EU is used to put one on the seat every time I come to that but my god the Atlantic mid Atlantic. Obviously due to the limit winter and the cocktail bar on the mayor he was just under the bridge for you know the heart of the mayor. Yeah the way he is with.

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I think I always run it. Did I mention Rob Olinsky in the last lap. Yes you did. Did you upset. OK. OK. Carry on. Now I'm not going to make the announcement that I made it yet. No we're running yes but this is to take two side three. Interview with the blogger on March 7 this person may go. IN. YOU WERE GOING TO TELL ME YOU WERE you've mentioned already that you are the Queen Mary before that you do actually want to do an interesting journey from South Africa didn't you to come back. Probably on the East Coast. I haven't. Oh I've had some wonderful. Places and events and marks in Portuguese East Africa that I have visited the lovely radio house and watch David Davis compared in one of his programs at biter. The next pulled the captain took a party of us to a Portuguese restaurant where we had chicken patty pity I take my accordion along and after breaking the ice with some Portuguese tunes to hold as the restaurant key until the journey in as we did appreciate it. I deeply appreciate demand this dancing partners. They made up for the toughness of the chicken which we suspected this pigeon at in Dar es Salaam. We met a former impresario from soul spray who happened to be on Bob and en route to Mombasa and we went to a nightspot called Aquarius. Paris being exceptionally good there and then two men do now. Silence in Zanzibar was the next place I was taken around and the smell of cloves was the first thing which hit you as you approached this Arabian Nights town. It was a brilliant moonlight night and the four of us went around the narrow streets in the rickshaw looking up at the Moorish balconies which almost touched each other across the street. Next stop was Mombasa. With time bathing beaches and lavish hotels built by the good Khan took a long hard long time to get off to where do you see his readers stopping off at a remote area. So you finally got Carter there didn't you. Yes. Oh yes Carter. Now we went through the desert and there was a man who was on board the ship he was something to do with an island. He and his secretary went board but they got to the middle of Cairo where the hotel that the man in charge of this tour to arrange worshippers. This man said I don't know how you feel about the scene here but it's terribly noisy here. I would prefer to go somewhere else. I said sure. So a few of us broke away and we went to the Mena House Hotel which is right near the pyramids and it was just after Christmas. We'd already seen some of these nightclubs with belly dancers and so we saw this is what we're going to do tonight to see the belly dance. But when we got to the billet house we checked in and we went into the cocktail bar for a drink at a Coast grand piano and the Corps got me acted and the people started coming to the bar was full to the manager and chief of police came up to the piano. Madam your music is filling my ball. How long you stay. Well I said I'm leaving for England tomorrow. Oh what a shame. If you ever come again we will not let you go. Well honestly we had such a night. There was no belly down to the round flat. The love of history the next day we went into the wonderful museum because you could take a month to see it look all that gold that came into our museum here you know. And we had lunch and we went. Did you go into a pyramid. No I didn't. Oh no. But we did in the morning we went. I had the tab. Oh. Oh yes. Well my legs were a bit too short. Stood up she and I was afraid of falling and the. But the bus of the two is hidden said. Don't give your dragon man anything. He's already been paid. Don't you give him many tips. So we started off this damned uncomfortable trade we had and all of a sudden these banal old man was in front of me on his camera but I think he must have been a good horse riding this evening. And all of a sudden he must have asked the drachma and Mr Rush again you can be baksheesh because the dragon gave the Camilla with all his backside started. Well I thought if he does act to be a handful of it get me. Yes I said yes. OK. It was most uncomfortable. However that was one thing I had to do and I did it. But then he went up to Portugal and then we went to a lovely dark the delta of the Nile which really were you know they were very young a lot of things and it was very interesting. But we said to the captain that if we see the ship coming along these the Suez Canal and you spot us give us a hoot to 70 which he did. Oh I mean to the little assistance. Well we got to port side and we about to get in on the ship and I bought myself and we went into his shops. I bought myself a radio which was which never works. And that was it. Well I brought you back to England. Well I brought me back there. Yes. We went right to the top of Africa. And then as we saw the white cliffs of Dover I was leaping bits you know and we had the boys from. What's the name of the port their short term the. They come out with them you know them. Oh we mean in the Mediterranean. No no. Look at the coast of England. Oh good lord Dover. Though not Dover. No not a little place up the coast said that these boys come out but they are them. What do they call this little boat to bring you in the Turks the tugs drugs are the target you know these both these boys brought it. Friends of ours now. Oh dear I wish I could remember the name Captain coming along to get to coach miles from Portsmouth through Kerry not Gravesend. Now these boys came over from. They came out of their tugs. It was like What do they call it when they send out the little tanks to the big slide. That's what they take. Oh yes throw Richard still of customs. The customs boys came out and this is near the White Cliffs of Dover you see. And they bought him a message for laid from my friends there. All right. And welcome home and all that and I was crying like a baby it was very cold. We're not recording or if you are we. Oh and we aren't sorry now then. Well that's settled. Sit down. The next thing that came on this brought this brings you back to the creamery. We can get your ideas here. Well I like the. I know. I did and I did the first season with Max Jeff Scarborough before I went to the Queen Mary Cleve Mary. Yes she came out when I came back to London I got myself a job at and horse because Mohammed Oldham has just been promoted. There were only two of my electronics there Lowery and the Hammond and I told the boss who was running it. I said Well I've got a wonderful selling item for you. This all good has been through in the jungle. I said it is nothing to stop it from playing. So I became this demonstrator for a time and who says you know as a composer Freddie Curzon Yeah he was ill this time too working there. Well I stayed there for a while until I had to demonstrate a new sort of Hammond seat and called extra voice. I showed these exercises has a headache. To play the deputy anyway Max. Jeff came in one day and heard me crying. He said I like the sound of that. How would you like to come and play with me at Scarborough. I'm starting. That was just passed to my room when I said you'll have to ask Geoffrey Hawkes because he's my boss. If he'll release me which of course he did. If you come back afterwards in the show when the seasons finish anyway we went tuppence it was very nice. We did some broadcasts and some televisions up there and I've managed to give a game a go. It was a very successful season. Whatever was you could ask. I thought you'd come back originally to go straight on to the Queen Mary but he had to wait some time before you could take over. But there was a little interim before. No I said now came back from my six weeks and my journey to. Scarborough Scarborough that came after the Mary. Oh I see. Because really you were gonna tell us something on reverting to the Mary for a moment about you did manage to get to see new you something in New York. Oh yes my sojourn in New York. We had twenty four hours but the time we passed before I could leave the ship. My first voyage first of all I had to go to Limehouse with all the cheats and mushroom sightings. Must I really. No. No it's all right. Try not to go to the Chinese and the less Khazar before they embark his shades. And I had the most rigid you know medical examination I've ever had. They pass me all right so that set but getting off the merry go down to one of the state rooms downstairs and put your hands in blood grease three lots and fingerprints. Then you held a piece of wood was a number on it. I got the picture there was an opossum like a criminal. And before you put your foot on sacred American soil that's what you had to do. What a different scene when they had tie this to you when you come out from God knows where. Well in a little bit of bliss right. Sure. Your laugh produces it anyway. So during trips all together did you make to America with American. Roughly half a dozen half a dozen. And now after that course I got crack into the Hammond organ but I haven't mentioned Copenhagen yet. I'm not going to ask you President. When did that happen. Not just after you've finished on the merry yes. And millions killed. Who was the organist that he used to take hold a distant things and Bobby pagan used to go there quite frequently. And I was invited to go for six weeks. Was it a hotel room. No. A lovely cinema cinema. Anyway I went on I took a friend with me one of my golfing pretty friends. She was in a good mood. She'd been all over the world. She liked travelling a good traveller. So we went from heritage on the queen. No. Was it the Crown Prince Frederik. Lovely ship. And we looked through the into the sort of dining hall and there was old a small construct laid out. And just after the war you know when you never had anything they would let the bestow kids look through the window. Well we arrived it is big and then I had to get to Copenhagen. And when we arrived the secretary of the manager of the superpower said to meet us. She didn't speak much English but she took me to the symbiote is so beautiful so much being too slow down now. Next to the Tivoli Gardens there was a huge bar. Then there was a ruler you put your dogs another room lay you put your babies and children and then looked after. And of course I was presented in the middle of the afternoon I was dying for a cup of tea in a big glass of gin the late great the I never entitled to but they were a bit apprehensive seeing the lady play. They wondered whether I'd be in tweeds with flat shoes. No. But they when they realized I was a bit of a sport. Oh I had to go and have meals with them at ten o'clock in the morning. Red white and blue on the table snaps and lager and it's a I got up on the old was going up like that. I see now the old gang there was the same as the bullet bonus here to the same model that came up in the circle right there. And I did three broadcast for I was there. Spoken Danish and. Well having a person with you is going to not clubs going to bars you can't alone. So we had we had a very good time and we stayed at the hotel right on the square quite near the yes in the bar at the Palace Hotel and we used to have a send a page boy out for a couple of frankfurters and some lovely beer. And I went to the Tuvalu brewery I was brought in. I was invited to go there and see and I had a big grand piano and I played a little dance and they had a scene there. There's bottles of beer clamped in it and it was a big Freidman it was going like that all the time in the shade. So I said well what is that for. What are they. Well they said we have to know how the beer travels here. And it's lovely day to anybody. And they said to the King himself was a great sport. He loved music. He just left being here with us. And I know more about Danish history or I did in those days than I did when I think to go to all the palaces and all the you know places of interest and then. Well I had the last part too before I left but on will not be able to bear to be dressed as cowboys. And my hostess spoke to pop. And it was real wild but they liked to enjoy themselves the Danes very very very hospitable. So I go back to try to get down there I had made a moment for the ship I had to go back home was called the past. There's an old ball cut into where the devil they got it from and it's no sea was rough so I said to Chris not however I'm not moving from here. I'm going to sit on this article die which I did. They washed me off with the house the next morning and she looked a bit grey DSL but I vowed I said and never again will live across the North Sea by boat I will fly. Well after that I did various odd jobs you know the Hammond was and I was demonstrator for Hammond organs that took me to everywhere I think in the British Isles up to Scotland. I used to go to Aberdeen a lot. Edinburgh Glasgow and the coastal towns of fishing ports Bucky Fraser Fraser Burra Peterhead and Fraser bell. That's right. And lots of travelling you know but I didn't mind it. I was younger then and by rail you were going round sometimes by car sometimes I went up in the van with the old good and sure yeah but it was very interesting I met lots of interesting people and we used to go to Wales. And then I was asked to go to Spain for demonstrating is a different city every night. Now the hope they happened organs and just been in Spain they got the prototype then they were making them there and they were much different than they are. They would have been here. Anyway. I started off in Palma mediocre and then I flew to. The north coast. No not yet. Is a place called beginning with a man on the on the north coast. Oh yes. The best coast the Santander red and ballot bowl in places like that. I've got a bill Bell was one of them but oh what was the one that I went to from. From Parliament the pound my name your car and Vigo. Oh yes. Now the dealer they I had ten sons five lucky man. And he took me to a wonderful fish restaurant. I've never seen such fish like that before. Anyway the Spaniards are very appreciative but they had lovely teaching the Hammond downstairs and then the. And you know in the shop and all that. Well that was very successful that one and then I flew to. Move from Vigo I had to go to Barcelona. But I had to stop on the way to the wonderful hotel that had been at cut them to something the monastery. And oh what's the name of it anyway. There was no flame from Vigo to Barcelona that night so I had to go by car was pouring with rain. It was in the street. I went to see and we got to this hotel midnight but it was a hive of excitement. Lots of people there full staff and I checked in and it was a menu that links if I wanted to state and chips at four o'clock in the morning I could have had it you know. Wonderful place anyway. Next morning we flew to Barcelona. Now the bus serves a man called Emilio Ponti still there and he was responsible for the ham dolphins in Spain Nishi and he wanted to take me to an Andalusian meal after the concert and of course I was so tired of love to go to bed you know. But you know what the Spaniards are like. Well they don't go to bed until about three or four. No I know them well you see there was a birthday party and in the restaurant and so just that's one partner flaming torches brought it on this bar. We're waiting for our meals roll that's going on you know. Anyway I was very nice and all that that was very nice. Well after that I had to fly to Bill bail. Then that's a dodgy flight over the mountains and the plane is very often you know late so the skill set the secretary from Barcelona she came with me she said I think lead here in the restroom because we were going to meet but the dealer a bit above it that was out the plane was too late. So I looked at the menus you see and I thought I'd like some fish. I saw the word rape American style. So I started grinning is this good look you can take that ad if you like. This girl said by her laugh. I said in England that is a very funny word feet quickly medical staff. Anyway they had a nightmare that eventually the plane came well and Bill by oh there was a very very. Interesting man deal with it and he used to come over to when we had this big antique place. It's now a dress shop next to the royal garb. He's become about his antiques. And he took me to a beautiful fish restaurant gorgeous place. Anyway after that the last one was Madrid and. Some of them that by a luxury. That's right and I'm blind. I didn't know at the time several gentlemen came to meet me and one of them was stone blind. He was the man who had the shop that was old and ill conceived. But you never think he was behind to. Get down the escalators and talk about and run his business. Now I gave that composite in the most gorgeous college where they had pictures of the professors full sized paintings you know who go just plain so large and only had what my models are playing one of the the larger models of the Hammond. But I didn't have an additional speaker I saw. Good heavens I don't think this will get over but I have an extra speak about him. He assured me he said no. That will be and it will be okay. And of course the things that went down in Spain lack of bulk was left in the medical sandbars and tickled Taeko met and they loved it tuna and then moved into invited to go into these as a room herself to pour some champagne and catnaps and I've still got the silver ashtray. They gave me as a momentous well before I flew back. Next day I went round Madrid busy and got the girls secretary and it was just before the King came back to the throne room and I said How do you feel about your king coming back. Oh she said she knows that Santa funny hair. We don't mind if we're not very interested not very enthusiastic you know. But then when I flew back now I took up my duties. There was so much you know a little there's always plenty of firm places now. Then we had to do the ideal hopes at the Olympia. Here they had him on one occasion we had a glass sort of house. It was a stage in the middle of the revolving stage in the middle with two old bands on it. So as you were playing you would go round you know and people would see you but foolishly they asked a disc jockey. One morning I was on the evening shifts afternoon shift. Fortunately I missed all day and the kids of course I do this at 7:00 so liberty was just coming and they smash the place from within charge and all the blood running down. She'd been kicking left and then she broke the glass. Oh yes I broke the glass to get at this so and so Libertyville can't understand them and engaging person doesn't do anything for the organs it doesn't sell an organ that moved so I miss that but Ted and they were very interesting these surgeons and on one occasion when the Compton people made Randall's electronics Florence would be on one stand demonstrating that and I would be on the Hammond stand. Well sweetheart it is to cut for a moment I'm just trying to catch up with here. Stop stop here please. When I came back from South Africa this the was it the first or the second time the second time that I tried. I came back ostensibly to seem a nice system another nor that the little time I had before I went on the merits I did a summer season at broach stairs because I went back to put in the season it started and everybody was fixed up and I thought oh well I've done the wrong thing here. I should have come back earlier but I had to call from the agent brought stairs. Now the organ is there. He and his wife would play in the season. She was a singer and he was sealed in this but he died suddenly and of course I had to have someone to carry on. So they sent a source of me and I took over. It brought tears. If as Ralph said so Jim for me because once I was there my oldest sister died. Who are they were looking for they only put the first to hand over to Kevin C. Bay to see that you must take him to the end of the year sitting on an. AD which goes across the channel. Oh harder hydrophobic. And there were loose rigging round all around. Come and try to find me. Of course when I got back I heard the news but it was very interesting. But the weather wasn't always so good. I used to play in the Macintosh and gloves and cosplay all day. But he's had his craft in the. But they had he gave prizes for us but we were on the pier you know. Oh it's my mouse man down the front I'm done turning the front right on the front just a side show. I didn't realize that I thought during the whole show. No no no no way. We have to blast the lane and everything and uh but was I going to say now. Oh shit. Did you bomb the scene. She is very sad all the time you know it must have been dreadful to lose your husband like that while they were doing the job and choose to dress the children up and we had the king and queen of you know children and all that. But two names you know the dog as well and it's a Walters and my sister both the brothers and what was his name. Jack Warner Jack Warner. He came and gave gave passes away on occasion but that was certainly wrong. Now another though not a place was the Isle of Man. I was asked to go over there now when I said the organ over the human. They lost it in the cargo hold most of it lost. So I was there but no. And so something came in the cardboard box. But there's a cheap keyboard you know that I had to play. But they damaged my old them anyway. They lost didn't they but they found that it was damaged anyway. That was very interesting because of the people there. You know you got a rather insular and you've got to conform to their superstitions when you go over a bridge there you've got to breed the little people say good evening to good morning. And I played this little place called proletarian in glad Brad declared right at the top. It was very picturesque but in the house and they used to come in and dance and I played for the. The Manx dances. Now they'd never had an old gun before and they'd only had a piano but the force of the organ to power you know they loved it. And every week we used to have them in custody and sometimes they sang without the accompaniment just the voice and then they join in. Everybody had to join in and dance and I've got the books that they gave me as a so the near was all their old customs and all the rest of it and you know really interesting. But there was an S in the in Dem castle town. There was a museum of black art and I'd heard about this and there was all sorts of funny things going on the island about black magic and all the rest of it. So some friends of mine said to come down and have a look at it so yes it was rather weird you know there was a capitalistic signs and that for the first time I did discover that there was a society of English which is why it is that. Anyway I was white which is only I suppose so. Well I hope so anyway. I think I was looking around and all of a sudden the vision in the black leotard caper. Can I show you round. Miss Barker and Lady all written the silver. Whatever it is there I should know I was quite fortunately and best friend and I'm just going. But I'm very interested is the the effect of the island here. Black magic. Oh no she said it's like magic. You have to have a nonprofit Catholic priest to conduct a black man. That's a couple things going anyway. It's very interesting Ireland some lovely spots and I enjoyed it. I used to play bridge with some of the council people you know. And then that was another. And then but there was them. Well that's right. That's ten pavilion Western Superman. I did a season with Mrs. Mills and Ted Rogers and it was quite fun and you know a nice little golf course there. And I used to go to the nice country around you know. That's very nice. And of course he has the rules and this was playing there with the orchestra. Oh dear. We're not it anyway. Well no no organist friend of mine I see. I can't remember this without looking through temperament. Oh really. No no I mean it. But I'm here now. Now it. What else was in high school. Wild enough. Oh. Yes Northern Ireland. And um badly. We know what all the trouble has been there and Belfast no lawsuit and had some interesting trips there went up to remote mountains some more. The last time I was there and they had a huge reservoir there but I had to have permission to go to to. You know was well guarded. This might have been all sorts of sort of limbo girl you know when I was much younger. Over to but from fish got to Watford. No works for me. No workman. Well went two weeks would but not do it. I had fish and chips. No this was a little golfing place. Oh dear. Well I went and went over to the ship I would tell what was machine gun during the war. Captain Faraday it was children. Yes he said I must move. Yes. He said You must not go on any other ship and mind when you come to Ireland. Good. But I didn't go there again. No. What breast letter. Oh Russell. Yes lovely golf course. Something else does a remote show. That was nice. That's nice boys there too then. Well I've done all sorts of odd jobs you know. I flew up to them in the mist to play a film there. And was the English actor the ways in the doctor to see it is with a beard. He was old laid. With a beard. Nurse John Robinson That's. Yes. He flew out with me now then. But I say here this is just some notes that I have. I was going to ask you I mean windows around this time you must have been getting in. When did you start doing things for the national competition. Oh well years ago because Florence was the musical director there for some years. And when Paul Arthur Dooley died you know he had Parkinson's disease. The last surgeon and he couldn't play. Mattie was. Setting but they didn't sack Amy so they kept him on. But they realized after this that absolutely ready Florence and said Can you help me out. And she used to go. And then of course when we had a lot of silence she cut counted me in and out of it ever since. There you go and you still do. Oh yes. Yes and then I play films I sometimes pick now in July or June it. Now the new gallery must to show a film and give a recital and do a treatment for old people. And it's a job getting the films I want. I can't get any Buster Keaton the only one I can get from the BFI is a college. Well I for you said I can't keep using it to show some restraint goes on about all the copyright on the I love Raymond Rahal the boss. He had some you came to one of my films once and he liked my fitting. Well he has the copyright of all the patents you see. But was coming to London and news a greater range that I do do do fittings for him. I was to meet him at the Mayfair Hotel but I had a phone call from one of his henchmen here to say that he'd died in New York of a heart attack. And that was a blow to beat as I'd like to have done the show but not nobody to carry on with it. Well they've got some people learning to play to fools now. But Robin you used to play with us occasionally. He still goes into but when there is silence. I always do a couple of these here and now here I've put on that something. It's enough what I heard here. Well he said there is always when we get back to the people then there is always the recitals in cinema. There was the Walden stole the Granada Boulder was told that a very nice Christie there. A double council one. And that of course I made a record of the Leicester Square or Richard Rogers. And we sent one which is when I was working. Oh I must tell you I was not. I'd forgotten to tell you that after I'd been back a while. They decided to open an organ shop or sell on shall we say in Chiswick. It was called The Sound of Music and yes I knew I was a bit tired of all that travelling happens I was still with. They asked me if I'd like to be demonstrator and teacher there was they used only up the road when I saw the system. This is a good idea me a home you know. And well I started there. Well the shop had a grand opening rubber caddy did these snags. A band called Smiths. They had several shops one in Maidenhead one in Guildford one here interstate and there's another one I forget now. Anyway. We had a grand opening and older Hammond open Sergey but for a while nothing happened. See it takes a while for people to get to know the bus came in one day and we're all sitting there you know he said. This is coming to a grinding halt there. Yeah. You're supposed to be the expert say let go go up open us back. We realised that to have just ten months wasn't all people love to have. Them. So we did but it became very successful. I used to give two lessons sessions every week in the evening but a lot of people from the audience. A few posts some of them and made good is still in the business. Now some of them are good. And I was there so six years. Move it. Well until I taught myself now I seemed to be doing a lot of work. What for. I don't take life a little easier than I was. Who else was suffering a bit. Sure. A doctor said take her ethical easier. So I told them I'm sorry but the doctor said I've got to ease up on it. So I didn't want to lose me of course. The lovely send off and all the rest of me. Was I thought to myself. Now I'm going to get myself about time travel. So I heard that chapels in Bond Street looking for someone now. But Billy. He was the manager there and he had the right idea. He wanted to put all the organs in the ground floor to it as you go in and so people that see him but then a red redcoat bloke from. This Soho he got him but these records the broke most of the shares. So he sacked all his records and they said all that's happened is set to go downstairs you say. But I went there for three days a week and I gave lessons at night. Yes I had to lock up the shop the burglar alarms and the missus as well. Oh yes sir you know I met a lot of interesting people there. Duchess of Kent used to be one of our good positive issues. We used to come in with her some you know. But music and stuff any night. But most of our commerce was to the Middle East. Rumour covers all goods and I find myself having to deliver excellent exercise for what I've told I'm a musician. I don't want to do all this. And well the gist of it was I got fed up with it and I left cupped that's I. You were going through your jobs now. But. It's not your fault I play it as a little that I haven't seen her up to it. LIPS ON A lot of shows and I they've got to have a Yamaha organ there which I play for shows and things and that's very interesting and the odd concert comes along you know. Oh the old film. Yeah. Well just to do the National Computer Center right. Sounds good. Keep busy is what. I should like to travel more of it. I should like to go and see now I've discovered I'm grateful to two ladies in Philadelphia. One is a librarian at the Philadelphia library and the other one is a nice violinist but she doesn't make enough money with it at the moment so she's books for a vet and vet veterinary research. And she says Suzanne that Julia just rang me up all the way from Philadelphia because she wants to come see me and I'd like to go and see then she knows where I live. I believe it's a nice town. Yes and I'm a bit nervous of traveling alone sounds stupid after all I've done. Never understand when when you're getting on. On. What about your six here. Yes. Well I had to write up in the Senate model that society's book last year because I've done more or less than 60 years in the business which is quite an achievement. I hope you weren't 1920 for your first journal. Well it itself and I was played when I was 14. We met in church. My father was a choir master at the Sacred Heart Church and obviously all goodness. And when you were 14. Yes. When I was twelve when I were true and when I was 14. I started in the business. They sent round because the organist is the one of the cinemas follow deal and now would I take the job. So they gave the concert pianist which father wanted me to be. Well I was pushed aside for the moment. The technique that I acquired and the work I did is paid off because you never know what you mean you have to play a real classic you know just really over 70 years. Would you choose not that now. No I'm just thinking about accounting you know starting from playing the organ in church from ETrade. Not professionally. Sure that's great. Where you go to work. Did you get the costume during the six dishes that you used to have frequent broadcasts. Yeah. On the organ of course very closely. I didn't watch her so much. No. That was Friday night and especially electronic it's not like the real pile on you know. Yes. Nigel did his meal date occasionally. Concentrating on the gap now because the you I have to carry on shore leave it. But.

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We were just you were just saying that you'd celebrated your sixtieth anniversary. You've got some nice art on the show. Looking back I mean this is we usually asked in the interviews even if it sounds a bit silly because the reply is obvious. Looking back there's nothing else you would rather have done than what you've done professionally. Well I have much to thank music for because it's taken me to some wonderful places and you meet all kinds of people you know. And it has its humorous moments as well. So yeah. And so you do if you started all over again you to do the same. Oh yes I think so. Well obviously it's natural speaking for us when we were all together. You know this for girls but the three girls Beatrice Celeste and Florence they've had already practically as in the business before I came on the show in August really began working in between. A look closer since I used to be taken along when France was doing a bit of courting and I used to chaperone. Right now used to I used to sort of weigh up these fellows but they gave me a bar of chocolate. I think much of in the book boxes full as well. Did you get Florence. Show me. You've mentioned it as we went along but you can play a card of variety of musical instruments. Can't you I mean apart from a. Well I love the fact now when I played at the love one of my first jobs if I want revenge should I see this as cinema the theater in Westminster Palace siesta after I left the Palace Hotel. I've lived to see eye to eye plenty workers all see the. The violin is what it is you see. And I would play piano in the theater with the orchestra. But when a musical show came along and the conductor usually a piano conductor so obviously played laid off and paid. They didn't like. So the new leader of the orchestra Philip a lot of it is simple as in the van he said I'll give you some lessons so I scraped away. Oh check chattering I got to the third position. But when the call rose their offer came along and I had to pay the score. Others fear and trembling five such as a bit of solo. Oh so I used to sort of stick me out and look at the conductor must say you're to get it now. Did you do that. Yes. Because a very difficult instrument like a keyboard with the keyboard you press the note and this made for you it was a string instruments you've got to make that note to show what else to do. Play an accordion accordion as you mentioned accordion that's just another joy that you do. Yeah yeah yeah. Well I used to take it in various places in South Africa where I couldn't take the old. I know I learned that one tribe will never dance with another really. They'll always stick to their own tribes to dance. Yes that father used to play the ocarina. That's an unusual but remind me when North Korea is because I know you know it's a little you blow it like like a flute. Oh it's made it sends a kind of China. Oh yeah I've seen one. I not used that much but he used to play. You played a harp he played it now the girls when they were quite young they had Celeste and Florence little house sized and so tall. But of course they gave it out after this was it. Do you ever know did you ever play little. No. No. Oh Celeste so less than three years. There was some dodgy play that was orchestra and harmonium. Oh well we had by Mattel you know. But the old only swells. So quite a variety sounds very interesting. Yes I don't think I can add very much more. I should probably think of some amusing thing when you go on the show for now. Thank you very much it's been very entertaining and interesting. So we'll call it a day but I'll give you a cup of tea before you go. Yeah. I didn't make an announcement on that last bit. But you can do that. I didn't make an announcement about tape side forward you going to finish because it's the same. Oh yeah. My sister Beatrice unfortunately she she had a flat with her husband didn't then Victoria and we went to see her one day forum tonight and she was just lying on the floor dead. Oh that was an awful shock. Well I had a heart attack no brain hemorrhage. Oh dear. Oh that was that was very sad. So now I'm sole survivor. The sisters know I was from France. Are you the sole survivor of the sisters brothers alliance or foreign sister. There's these seven. Grand nieces in America that I don't know that much has changed in them. Where do go. I think that would be very nice. Is a very interesting place. I've never been a proper. But now we only know some people from Fort Lauderdale oh lovely family. They wanted me to go there. But the journeys are very lonely night aren't they. Yes. I'd love to go over to see Disneyland. I want to see the Grand Canyon. Well you can fly of course quite quickly. Yeah. Yes. But there's some reasonable reasonable chance that you can get to America parts of America. Not too bad. Not much more expensive than trying to places like Edinburgh amid internal affairs in this country a very very high level everything every single video. But did I mention in my cell turn when I was at the Parliament House I did that I didn't that about sheep May Safely Graze. Yes you did. That always gets in the. Like that. Do you still like that to. Congress street corner house because it was nice to go up again. You're on a Sunday morning for breakfast. Hell we could have breakfast on a Sunday morning which is if you want to cook breakfast for ninety nine P.. I want to go to Beijing stores brewery in Oxford Street I went back with a nice pink piece of bacon toast coffee. Nineteen ninety. Oh that's great. How can they do it for 99. That's remarkable. This might for some reason I was born on location with the chap you mentioned Jack Warner two years ago. Yes. Actually it was. We were shooting what we were doing. Be willing to face film but it was fun. Yes. And there was a real sort of you stop. Good good. Put up the common place and rather it was setting up Jack and I went and had breakfast and it was fantastic. I mean you know look like you know does it come to Russia from bacon two eggs toast Tea Party and all. And it was about two shillings or two they've got to be good because I gave it to them it's not a drought is they destroy the place. Yeah sure sure they get very they've got to get it believe me but these places on the road are very nice little shifts and reasonable and let's see out of there two of them put the kettle on anyway. Let's remember you must. Yes. That is the end of the interview with Bulger. And at the end of recording.

Biographical

Sister of Florence De Jong. Ena Baga  was born in Islington November 1906 and went to a convent at St John's Duncan terrace. She was born after three sisters Celeste Beatrice and Florence and after nine years her mother  used to say it was the milkman because she was the only one that had dark brown hair .At  Southend she played the organ at the Palace Hotel she played at the Rivoli and on the pier. Next to the  Tivoli in the Strand sometimes royalty were upstairs in the circle. Edward & Miss Simpson  Noel Coward came down in his dressing gown with the cigarette holder. She accompanied him with an excerpt from Private Lives  Someday I'll find you. At Balmoral she played for King George VI. Lord Mountbatten was living in Park Lane and she played for him and his guest the King of Spain. Her last permanent job was Camden Town beautiful cinema like the Roxy New York.She played in an organ shop in Chiswick. It was called The Sound of Music where she was a teacher and demonstrator.